Sharing my perspective on the whole DT vs. O-L thing...

"RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars" (rallydarkstrike)
11/09/2020 at 23:02 • Filed to: DT, O-T, The Hyphen

So, we currently have a big fracture in the userbase (though some are cross posting on both) where most of us are either over at DT or over at The Hyphen.

LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR to start, I will go wherever we all decide to go and adapt and be happy doing so . That’s what humans do.

But, let me explain my thoughts in a really stupid analogy below, and please, take no offense. I’ve read Stef’s and other folks’ comments in other posts and you’ve all made me second guess everything I am about to write bigtime (I don’t want this community to die and fade out due to a lack of influx of new users ), but, as cliched as this is going to sound, this is sort-of what my ‘heart’ is feeling like right now...

I like the Hyphen more , so far....it feels more like ‘home’, like the Oppo I am was used to here on Kinja. That being said, again, if most of us go to DT, I’ll head there too and will be happy to do so to stick with you guys , but, right now, O-L feels more like ‘home’.

I just finished haphazardly and awkwardly explaining these thoughts to Jminer and Tripper on the Discord.....

It comes down to ice cream. DriveTribe is ice cream.

(Remember, this is going to be a stupid analogy, and, again, I mean no offense but in my English Minor brain, this is the easiest way I could explain myself, and these are the rambling stupid thoughts of a late-night Nova Scotian. )

People tell me of the growth that Oppo has seen on DriveTrive, hundreds of thousands of views and something like 500+ new members to the Tribe! That’s great! 200 of those members are likely real-Oppo transfers, and then lots of new ones from our new content posts and the like. BUT....

I am making a sundae. Somebody has hundreds of toppings in front of me on tables. I am going to go through and say ‘OK, I like chocolate chips and I like peanuts and I like strawberry sauce and chocolate sauce and...’ and I am going to go through and put those toppings on the ice cream which I like. Together, they are delicious, but I am not going to pay attention to any one topping.

That’s what Tribes on DT feel like to me...not really that... special? , just ‘I look at the list of all the Tribes and click on ones for subjects I like or that sound cool..’

‘I like classic FIATS! Oh, there’s a few tribes for that *click click click*, I like Kei cars, oh, there are some for that *click click click*’

‘This cool post about a Miata got posted on the main page...I’ll follow that Tribe.’

Soon, I have a wonderful list of oodles of Tribes that pique my interest. That was my experience when I first set up my DT account over a year ago. But then there was no....like....BOND with any given tribe to me? My fear is that all these ‘numbers’ that are mentioned are just that...numbers. People, as I was, who are just ‘adding toppings to their sundae’...people adding Oppo DT to their list to consume the content, but who are not planning on truly BELONGING there. I get that, some Oppos WANT their content consumed and their views to go up, and I also enjoy that too, but it’s not the most important thing to me. What I’ve noticed is that, as I’ve been following the DT Oppo page as much as O-T, all the people I see posting to the Oppo DT are OG Oppo transfers or LALD folks, there may have been some I’ve missed, but I’ve seen no or very few new names/usernames from these new blood ‘numbers’ posting there. I get that this is early days from out sudden DT influx, but with these huge numbers, where are these new members in our ranks?

I worry all that growth is just numbers of people consuming the content...but that’s it, not wanting to join and take part in OUR community, not really seeinf it for what it is and only seeing it as ‘another article to read that’s interesting’, if that makes any sense....

I don’t want Oppo to be about numbers, I came here and stayed for the community...for the camaraderie and friendliness and the realness. We’re not all car posts and happiness and sunshine. I see YOU GUYS in your posts as much as your cars. “I broke my finger yesterday.” “My dog and I went for a bike ride” “I had a tough day at work. I DO feel the community on DT, in the sense I’m seeing posts from all my Oppo Kinja friends from here, but the growth people mention doesn’t feel ‘real’ to me...and that’s why O-T feels more like home. I see the same familiar faces posting the same content...which I guess I do on DT too, but it just doesn’t somehow quite seem the same.

I will say that it’s amazing that we’ve piqued the CEO of Drivetribe’s interest and have had a lot of interactions with their community staff...they do genuinely seem like a good group and a welcoming group....I could be happy there if we did have to switch and, in time, and I’d get used to things and I’d put up with the niggles there that I currently can’t stand in terms of interface and layout and the like and, who knows, I may grow to like it there as much as I am claiming to like Kinja Oppo and O-T.

But, I don’t know.....I’m honestly and truly torn, really I am. I would LOVE if we could have O-T as our ‘home’ and then get folks to re-post their more popular long-form stuff to DT, but I can’t see people doing that when they could just stay on DT.

Yes, I know all this is just about being on websites on the internet and I am likely overthinking all of this, but I love this community....it’s been one of the best parts of my day every day for the...something like 5 years I’ve been around

here. I just don’t want to lose anybody or lose the camaraderie and friendships we have here. I don’t want it just to be about the view counts and the numbers. I can understand some people want to post because they want to grow their content and gain followers and post views and make something of their work, but, for me, it was always just for the fun of it and to interact with you guys and gals. The numbers mean nothing to me.

But then I truly ‘get’ what Stef says when she mentions that DT is out best change of gaining new members because of the vastly bigger chance of people coming in through viewing the content....I just worry they won’t take the time to stop, smell the roses, stay with us, and get to know us there before hurrying their way off to the next shiny thing on DT in a different corner of the site back into the ether...

2020 sucks Oppo....sorry for the rambling nonsense above...it’s late and I have elementary kids to teach tomorrow, so I’m off to bed. By the way, I’m probably nowhere near as melancholy as I may sound despite all of the above, it was more of just a rambling stream of consciousness writeup of my trains of thought over the last bit,

Stupid G/O and doing this to all of us... :/

G’night folks and feel free to share your comments and discussions below...I’ll get back to you tomorrow!

DISCUSSION (42)

Cash Rewards > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:08

I appreciate you putting your thoughts down. I'll says this about DT: you're right, most that come through won't stop to smell the roses. Some will, and will be jerks. But some will, and will stay, and we'll be better off for it. That's how we all ended up here in the first place. I fear that door will be closed elsewhere, and this place will fade away

Just Jeepin' > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:10

There’s definitely something missing so far on DT, although my brief attempt to register on the Hyphen failed so I haven’t hopped on there yet to compare.

I’m genuinely torn between my three options, including just going down with the ship. I’m going to keep making noise here until they kick me out, but so much of what I’ve enjoyed about this place is this place itself.

Don’t get me wrong: I like y’all. Some more than others, obvs, but I’m fond of the community.

But I’m a tech bigot. I don’t do Windows. I don’t do C++. There are technologies I like, and those I don’t, and if I don’t like it I simply avoid it.

I like Kinja. It suits my posting preferences very well. DT is too cramped visually, too awkward to post multiple photos, too little control for so much complexity in Studio.

The home-grown site looks promising, but I’m not a fan of forums, so I’ll reserve judgement on that. I want a blog.

Anyway, I simply don’t know. Kinja, I hardly knew ye.

Shoop > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:11

I agree. D-T needs an approved author system for it to truly replicate Oppo.

66P1800inpieces > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:14

Somehow I keep hoping that Rock Auto will somehow come to the rescue. T hen I think of their user interface and if they were to run a Kinja like platform it would be 8-bit and run off an IBM-XT server.

More to the point, I like the nested comments so that individual threads can have lives of their own. I don’t know if any of the other platforms have something similar but I will miss it.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:14

Yeah DT is kind of cold, it has cool stuff but I guess not really like a home. I am just seeing what the people who know how to run a site say and maybe it will be tough to keep it going? I’m all for the hyphen if its viable, it’s simple and could be more ours for sure.

phenotyp > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:16

100% with ya.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Just Jeepin'
11/09/2020 at 23:16

DT is tough unless you use the quick post, the other is a bigger process I don’t want to do for say a DOTS post, too much work. I do feel a bit lost at sea at DT. I would probably keep looking at things on there if Oppo were to stay at the hyphen. I just hope the hyphen can keep going, I have no idea how sites work so!?

Just Jeepin' > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
11/09/2020 at 23:19

It will probably die after a few years without the feeder community that Jalopnik commenters offered, and without funding for full-time development work. People will get tired of trying to keep it running.

But not everything has to last forever.

Stef Schrader > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:29

1. Jim Spanfeller is a herb, pass it on.

2. Neither DT or O-L really speak to me as a long-term thing , and I really think this is THE cue to set up our own shop that won’t go down with someone else’s ship . Seeing much of the longer stuff split off to DriveTribe kinda hammers home my “we need an open blog system” point. DT’s is really just what’s open now, so I really don’t want to be seen as pushing that-a-way for anything in the long run . We’ve got this symbiotic relationship between witty shitposts and longer content that works here, and it seems to be temporarily going into storage in separate boxes.

I think we have a shot in the long run if we got something like Kinja Oppo somewhere where there could be a regular blog scroll, staying independent but perhaps having other sites that want us around link over. There’s a sizable ex-Jalopnik diaspora that could probably toss us an intro post once we have something more permanent. Maybe that’s something we could ask the Jalopnik crew for as a more permanent link , or maybe some of the others who’ve taken an interest in Oppo’s plight could say “go over here.”

In the meantime, I guess I’m a slackposter? I should probably check in on Discord, I guess. Just been too busy to really deal with it, and with nothing super floating my goat, I guess I’m hanging around on the email update list.

jminer > Just Jeepin'
11/09/2020 at 23:32

Kinja is a unique platform that is pretty special. It’s more than a commenting system, more than a blog and more than a social network.

I don’t think that O-T is the end result but it’s a middle ground right now for those that don’t love DT. I share a lot of RallyDarkStrike’s opinions here, but also will follow the community. If after a few weeks the hyphen isn’t working for most I’ll shut it down and send folks to DT.

Ultimately my dream is to see OPPO as a front page somewhere with featured long form blogs like your detailed Jeep posts or ttyymmnn’s this day in aviation with a robust commenting system and community. That’s a tall order for sure though and definitely not something we can do before Kinja dies.

As far as the registration goes, I’m working on the issue. It’s sporadic and is definitely worse if you’re running an ad blocker. There are no ads but it seems like some of them don’t like a particular component of the registration process.

ttyymmnn > Just Jeepin'
11/09/2020 at 23:33

I like Kinja. It suits my posting preferences very well. DT is too cramped visually, too awkward to post multiple photos, too little control for so much complexity in Studio.

I’m with you here. I spend a lot of time on my posts to make them LOOK good, regardless of what I’m saying in words. Kinja does that. I will post on Hyphen, but I will not be happy with the look. Seems petty, but it’s true. And DT looks even worse.

I commented on Hyphen to jminer in this whole forum vs blog debate. He agreed that Kinja was a great hybrid of both, and I would like to see that continue. The forum only version was no bueno for me. Every time I clicked everything looked different.

At least for now, I plan to hang out at Hyphen and post both there and in DT. I’d like to see if I can get more readers. But I do agree with Darkstrike that we might get more views but not people investing. Who knows? I guess we just have to try it and see.

Poor_Sh > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:34

I’m just going to repeat my idea from the discord. Use the hyphen to do all our usual oppo stuff, but the most liked/impressive posts can get reposted to the DT with a link to the hyphen, author credit, and we can all like and promote it. That way people will see content and can click the link to come to our site or just read and move on, but Oppo stays Oppo.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:38

I am liking your thinking. But I am also amenable to a natural Internet demise so I may not be an entirely reliable corresponden t.

jminer > Shoop
11/09/2020 at 23:44

Only one mod becomes a problem too if things wander too off-topic. We’re very forgiving as long as you follow rule 1 but a lot of people on the internet aren’t excellent to each other.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > ttyymmnn
11/09/2020 at 23:53

It’s definitely a fine line between piquing interest in the community and getting sufficient community interaction to make both long and short posts worthwhile. Kinja was honestly a near perfect combination of that from a conceptual point of view, especially with the relationship between the sub blogs and FPs .

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:55

Another vote for the hyphen site here.

Pros:

Very similar posting process to kinja, I just did a test post and it worked great.

Cleaner interface

No ads (I’m sure ads will have to be added at some point in the future, but I’m sure the level will be very unobtrusive compared to kinja or DT.

In-house. No more relying on others for the existence of our community.

Cons:

Lack of wider community to add more members.

Not sure if its something I’m doing wrong but I can’t sort by newest posted? I think this is going to be fixed though.

Still in development. Although so is kinja so...¯\_()_/¯

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/09/2020 at 23:56

Thus far my vote is with the hyphen as a ‘best of’ with the content still being posted to O-L along with the crap posts, hour rules, hey-I-just-noticed-somethings, and all the other stuff that makes Oppo great. I just don’t get the feeling of community over there.

jminer > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
11/10/2020 at 00:13

In house is both a blessing and a curse right now. We don’t have a staff of devs working on it, just a couple volunteers now.

Working on the sort thing - there’s a post over there talking about the options and asking for a vote on how it’s laid out. Take a look and let me know.

http://opposite-lock.com/topic/114/thoughts-on-layout-feedback-requested-and-poll-inside

While there’s a limit now to what can be done, letting the community drive it is a nice plus for us.

At some point there may be banner ads, we’ll have to see. A community supported model (like oppo gold) is probably a first step since a lot have spoken up in support of this.

Also thanks for trying it!

Danny Korecki > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/10/2020 at 00:17

My opinion is the current limbo is doing more harm.

Since you liked to use analogies , the Oppositelock community is a plane .

DT is a complete and open runway to land . O-L is trying to clear the runway, clean it, while the plane is coming in for landing . The being said that guy making O-L that fast, props to him.

I have been in business long enough to know at this point it i s all about who gets to control it and not wanting to give up control . If move to DT current mods don’t control it anymore, DT does . If move to O-L that creator controls it.

Lack of picking as now left the community divided, best case scenario doubled up on two sites.

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > jminer
11/10/2020 at 00:28

I wish there was something I could contribute, but my skill set is nonexistent when it comes to this stuff, and sore time is equally as hard to find.

But if y’all did some kind of fundraiser or set up a PayPal fund, or even sold t shirts or something I’m 100% in. I really really want this to succeed.

Wheelerguy > Stef Schrader
11/10/2020 at 00:31

The tricky thing about this place is that we are an audience “union”, really. Or a pulp thing that can be high-brow and low- brow at the same time. Jalopnik was that, too, just with slightly more polish, so it makes more sense to have both sites be symbiotic. DriveTribe’s core conceit flies in the face of that dynamic: for an open contributors’ platform, it has the editorial standards of a typical magazine. So for a lot of the things we love here on Kinja, it won’t work as usual on DT.

Wheelerguy > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/10/2020 at 00:49

Doesn’t help that I literally just posted how much I’m getting paid there, now, do I?

But here’s the thing: the things that made Oppo special won’t work on DT despite being ironically the sort of publication that’d thrive from the same symbiotic relationship Oppo had with Jalopnik. Why? Because DT’s audience ARE writers, too and vice versa. Ideally, Oppo can seamlessly transition to DT like nothing happened.

T he only wrench in the equation is that I don’t think DT is ready for the culture that Oppo has nurtured over the decade. It’s still a proper magazine with the button-up costuming that rivals that of EVO, but it’s also open for anyone who wants to post.

DriveTribe is, in a lot of ways, trying to do what Jalopnik and Oppo have all but gotten down to a science and an art form until now , but they tempered the back-and-forth relationship. They’ve only started to be more engaging recent ly, and even t hen the onus is still on t he author to keep the motor running in the commen ts. And we’re not supposed to bring about that si te-wide change even if DT gets a powerful editor and assimilate. Because we’re not beholden to these admins. We never have. Yet the culture that we can bring to DT is the sort of thing that can make that site better.

I still think that jminer’s development is a better place to stay as it allows us to stay a singular unit, not answering to anybody. At the same time, though, I can’t deny how well DT’s raw capacity can make the best of Oppo be a value-added element that gets both talent and informati on ou t there.

We can have both, and I reckon that ’s the se tup that works for now until DTT gets the message and learns from G/O’s mistakes , but let’s just say that Oppo on DT is for those who must absolutely want a tailore d suit: an Oppositeblog 2.0 as a taster . And for the likes of me who ARE on DT, it’s our job to introduce users t here to Opposite-lock proper, where we can have a freer, more fun and more involved discussion.

jminer > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
11/10/2020 at 00:50

Being an active community member is enough - it’s what makes this place special.

We’ll probably get to the fundraising stage at some point in the next couple weeks. We’ll post about it on the hyphen when it comes up.

Jim Gray > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/10/2020 at 06:44

DT numbers may be up because of lurkers, like me have to sign in to view there. My $0.02, Oppo needs a feeder our will wither away.

Mark - Sixpots None The Richer > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/10/2020 at 07:20

Hello!

I have not made my mind up about this whole thing yet.

There’s just something I noticed by testing DT with three posts and having a closer look at the posts over there.

“ I worry all that growth is just numbers of people consuming the content”

This rings true to me . “ Kinja Oppo” - without the help of Jalopnik sharing posts on their page - resulted in maybe 400-ish impressions for me . Keeping in mind that basically every visit was counted, so my own as well as commenters who visited two-three times, the posts had a very limited reach.
But people were commenting! Asking questions, were supportive and in general engaged. Like you this is what I enjoyed.

I re posted my article about the German TÜV as a direct comparison on DT.

https://drivetribe.com/p/how-a-classic-american-car-gets-ZOE7Ew3BRCauswpeRgU0Dw?iid=OzVZXYmWRUia7nRGNBJbyQ

It was shared to the DT frontage and has ATM 1.7k impressions. This feels big, but there are just two comments + my replies.
On the other hand a “ shitpost” like this:

https://drivetribe.com/p/comment-a-pic-of-your-car-to-get-GGq1IBafT3q-bi8ALfyotQ?commentId=DZ4TJNclQ0WmmQspaLKfyQ&iid=TTaRCe45TfKaHFbCjZUtsQ#DZ4TJNclQ0WmmQspaLKfyQ

Gets 20k impressions and hundreds of comments.

Don’t get me wrong though! I’m not saying that my article is deserving of universal praise, huge discussi ons in the comments and blessing of the May, Hammond and Clarkson overlords who grant me fame and fortune .

And yet - like you mentioned - it feels more superficial and less like a community over there. The abundance of posts make engaging less likely and - the competition by quizzes, “cl ick-bait” articles and professional content is high .

I can imagine staying at O-L for the community and just throwing some articles on DT where I’m purely aiming for the hedonistic need of attention and exposure. ;-)

Of course these articles will be linked to from O-L.

shop-teacher > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/10/2020 at 07:40

When LaLD first moved en-mass to DT, I thought it was pretty cool.an, those numbers were great. Before long though, I realized what was missing. I was getting all these likes and views, but almost no comments. No conversation.

To me , if there isn’t going to be a conversation, what’s the point? I don’t feel a need for lots of people to see my stupid pictures. I want to have conversations. That's why that silly condiments thread was so much fun.

haveacarortwoorthree2 > jminer
11/10/2020 at 08:24

Thank you for all your efforts!

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Wheelerguy
11/10/2020 at 09:43

Well said. That’s kind of how I’m looking at it right now, the Hyphen as the sort of easy laid back Oppo, or we can still do her short or long form posts, but also Drivetribe we could post something more long form and professional.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Jim Gray
11/10/2020 at 09:44

Yes, and as much as I love Oppo2, that's what Stef's comments have made me worry about...

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Mark - Sixpots None The Richer
11/10/2020 at 09:56

That’s similar to what I was sort of feeling. I be perfectly happy using O-L as our main base, and then posting better quality content on Drivetribe.

Spanfeller is a twat > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/10/2020 at 10:39

I think we could have some sway over drivetribe. If you look at the SimilarWeb analytics. Drivetribe has 2.2m views per month, oppositelock.kinja has 600,000. It’s not nothing. If the mods here could get to have the web team at drivetribe make some changes for us, the site would be great to feed new users to us, while it won’t require that we maintain it ourselves.

Granted, Drivetribe has a bit of a problem, which is that (as far as I understand) you don’t need anything comparable to “ authorship” to post in a tribe . Which is a Big Problem. Part of what made oppo interesting is that the userbase was committed to following the rules and create a certain “trust” with other users through being ungreyed and authorized to post . As much as we are a user-blog, it is a fairly regulated one but it isn’t an exclusive site like Jalopnik is where only vetted professionals can post.

Spanfeller is a twat > Poor_Sh
11/10/2020 at 10:42

How do you stop people like... me... who have posted long-stuff on drivetribe throughout the year from using drivetribe to post pointless stuff?

Poor_Sh > Spanfeller is a twat
11/10/2020 at 10:47

I wouldn't. I'm just offering people a way to keep one stand alone site for our community, but still interact with DT as much as anyone wants which will keep their interest up.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/10/2020 at 11:30

DT as new Best of OPPO...?

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/10/2020 at 11:40

Sortof!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/10/2020 at 11:49

That could work...

Stef Schrader > Wheelerguy
11/10/2020 at 12:09

Interesting. I didn’t realize they had standards for regular posts. For paid contributions, yes. Normal posts? Nah.

Then again, the whole pretext for nuking user communities (...and shielding a thin-skinned herb from criticism on his own network in the process, HMM) is about copyrights, so honestly, you do need some bare minimum rules to make sure people aren’t straight-up plagiarizing stuff or stealing images they should pay for.

Wheelerguy > Stef Schrader
11/10/2020 at 13:05

There is a “ creators’ programme” , though (the one I’m referring to) , which users can opt into and lets them monetize content. That’d mean falling into standard practice, but it does mean moolah later so...

Taylor Martin > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/10/2020 at 13:26

My view on the situation is pretty straightforward:

Like you said, Oppo is a big ol’ community. That’s why I’ll stick to hanging out on Oppo-Hyph en-Lock more. It’s a hotline to good people who will suggest whether or not I should buy a bad car, or will lend an ear if I need to complain, or if I need mechanical help immediately.

But DT is cool because it can get your work seen by hundreds, including the staff. If I ever put any effort into writing an actual article (I have a couple of times), I’ll throw them on DT and see if they get those juicy views. I’m not going to post me Good Morning Oppo stuff on there though, as it takes up a lot of real estate on the page. I think folks who write long form like ttyymmm (truth be told, idk how many letters are in his name) should consider posting their stuff to DT too.

I’ll probably make a post of my own about this too, and spill all the feels and blah blah blah. But at the end of the day we’ll find a place (Nick is working on Oppositelock.com, no hyphen, and it looks rather nice).

Stef Schrader > Wheelerguy
11/10/2020 at 13:55

Ahhhh, yeah. That’s what I was thinking of. I don’t think my Puffalumps On Objects tribe is subject to that.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Taylor Martin
11/10/2020 at 14:47

Actually, Nick and Jminer are SORTOF working together. Nick is trying to im plement a NodeBB (which is what Jminer’s site uses) frontend on Ghost to get a more Kinja-style blog feel/function. :)

Taylor Martin > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
11/10/2020 at 15:28

And they say Infinity War was the most ambitious crossover. I think not.